Exploit?



  • So someone just destroyed several of my bases using following:
    (1) Created an alt
    (2) Alt created a camp behind my territory. The spot is terrible as controller is far far away from energy spam
    (3) Made one reinforcement and spawned three attackers, sent them to my base
    (5) Removed camp
    (6) Repeated steps 2-5...

    That's not fun and impossible to defend against!



  • I have to agree that this should be changed. However, the implication of duplicate accounts is not true! This was an organized attack by several players that joined forces.

    For the account that blocked our troops however, "DefenderOfBases", I would like to know if the IP address seem to match of DarkTrooper7 since this timing was way too perfect. Mods please check into this and use banns if necessary.



  • Joined forces by respawining? oh please...
    I placed a stop for the only real player from attacking.



  • .... which is cheating (duplicate accounts)



  • How did you manage to create creeps with cost more then 300 by the way? Check out room E13S6
    It's blocked off, full spawn, Noone is harvesting and there are attackers costing more then 500....
    I got screenshots too.



  • Also checking IP is not a good test, several people can play from the same household. Checking source code of the players on the other hand..



  • Check out room E13S6 now....
    One spawn created 1 minute ago, no harvesters, 3 attackers with huge value...



  • The problem with expensive creeps being spawned from a freshly respawned room is pretty cheap as a strategy goes, but shouldn't you be able to defeat it with walls/defenders?

    I agree that checking IP addresses is a bad test. I often log on from work where a coworker of mine also plays, as well as from other random Access points when i feel the need to check in.

    I believe the initial spawner contains around 1500 energy? I can't find the documentation for it but i do remember having considerably more than 300 when i respawned into a new room.



  • You can see it all for yourself, check out player Genovese around room E13S4 he is attacking my rooms there, you can see his spawn in room E13S7 now.

    Even when the initial push is destroyed, he makes the next one in a few minutes (respawn - rebuild). I can't build defenses fast enough in the room with controller level 5 and they don't arrive fast enough from another room.

    I don't feel that it's fare that level 1 player can destroy lvl 5 base just by respawning...



  • I think they should make a 24 hour respawn timer. That'd keep people from being able to "Spawn Spam" you. I had a player do the same thing to me last week and I was furious.



  • 24 hours is a bit much but it should defenitly be increased. I suggest changing from 1 minute to 1 hour.



  • Putting timer would prevent new player from choosing different room if he realizes a mistake though. If there is indeed a "bonus" energy (the spawn in the offender's room says 300...) perhaps put a rule in to not let it be used on attack/range_attack ? My problem is not so much with the constant respawn, but with the constant huge energy influx that can not be counteracted without much larger energy reserve.



  • Do you maintain ramparts? That's been my biggest help in repelling attacks. I wouldn't stand a chance without them



  • I do have ramparts, but by changing spawn locations he was able to break one of them and I am not able to rebuild it.



  • Initially, a player who just respawned receives 1000 points of energy in the spawn. However, there was an error in the calculation of a creep cost in the case when the spawn initially had more energy than its capacity. As a result, a creep worth of 910 energy required just 300. We've fixed it.

    We still keep thinking about the respawn mechanism itself, including possible means to avoid abuse. It is likely that some progressive fine will be introduced covering time between respawns and using it too often.



  • I was recently attacked by this way by someone with light gray rhombus on black background on badge. His name was on "Def".



  • I also agree that this should not be possible, however I also think that the game should add some kind of "morale" of the screeps. It is impossible for a starting player to defend against big players and since the map is very small, you have to spawn near a big player. It is also not fun for a starting player to get killed twice a day.



  • -- That's not fun and impossible to defend against!
    Puh-leease - 1) your defenses should have already been in place 2) Defending against RCL 1 with RCL 2+ is a no-brainer.



  • Just read official response, "As a result, a creep worth of 910 energy required just 300"
    That means such controller could spawn 3030 worth of creeps, which is equivalent of 50 extensions - level 7.



  • Where did you get the number 3030 from? You could spawn creeps of : 1.) 1000, 2.) 700, 3.) 400, 4.) 100 -> reinforcements -> 5.) 300.

    Maximum was 2500 (in which one creep of 100 was useless).



  • Read the official comment please!
    "As a result, a creep worth of 910 energy required just 300"
    So one could spawn 910+910+910, respawn and another 300
    That's the kind of forces that were attacking me...
    The point is moot, it's already been fixed.