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Posts made by tdxtor
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RE: @artch Precisely this attitude
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RE: @artch Precisely this attitude
@rhef Ya at this point after searching the forums and seeing that so many people have complained about @artch already, I'm just going to leave this here for the next person who tries to take @artch to task for abusive behavior. It seems like plenty of people complain about it already, so it's not like the community doesn't know about the problem. @artch already said it best in that other thread I linked and hopefully, someday this game will get a level-headed moderator.
I am confused why if screeps has a community manager and @artch isn't that person why @artch hasn't been dealt with by the community manager yet. At this point, this thread has evolved into just a discussion about what can be done to improve the player experience in screeps by taking advantage of the dedicated community it has built.
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RE: @artch Precisely this attitude
@zortea Fun fact, @artch is a moderator over there too, and community moderated is not the same as unmoderated. The screeps subreddit is where I was first introduced to the screeps community (outside of in-game messages with neighbors). The subreddit may have spoiled me since everyone over there is so nice all the time and I guess @artch is less active (until he reads this lol) with only about one post a month.
It's hard to feel grateful for interaction from the devs when all we seem to get is abusive language and churlishness. If we want the community to grow, we need the forums here to feel more like the subreddit: a place where people are welcome to talk without being abused just because the devs are overworked. Community moderation I think would be a good thing, and what we have now I feel like is worse than nothing.
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RE: @artch Precisely this attitude
@zortea I would wager there are plenty of members of the community who would be willing to moderate the forums for free. That could help if the problem is devs just being spread too thin, plus many members of the community seem like really nice people and would likely handle problems with a level head.
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RE: @artch Precisely this attitude
@artch Thanks, sorry again to hear about your loss.
Just take a look at all the abuse you give players, the toxicity is astounding. How can anyone expect to play this game when someone who is supposed to act professional treats customers this way? Why isn't the community manager stepping in and putting a stop to the abuse? I'm sure there are cooler heads among the community who would moderate the forums without attacking people personally.https://screeps.com/forum/topic/1925/future-of-screeps-what-do-the-devs-envision/
https://screeps.com/forum/topic/3099/game-cpu-generatepixel-change/Even a quick search of the forums reveals literal hundreds of results of @artch getting heated at customers, usually explicitly ego related:
"So now you're comparing competency of project developers who worked on it for 5 years, and a person who started playing it a month ago."
"Really, did I say that somewhere?"
"Oh come on, you can't be serious."
"I didn't want to start this argument here, but you're so wrong."
And here's a little nugget of advice past you has left for present day you @artch
"You might probably have noticed already that 95% of fights and friction on this forum have happened with your participation. Don't you think it may indicate that something is wrong with your way of expressing your ideas rather than our way of listening to them? ... And if someone disagrees with you, he is simply mistaken and incompetent?" -
RE: Game.cpu.generatePixel change
@gadjung I'm not asking for @artch to apologize to me, I'm asking him to apologize to the customers he insulted in this thread. Since I'm sinking to the same level as @artch I definitely wouldn't expect an apology now even if I had before. It's important to the health of the game that we continue to be able to bring in new players as old players leave, and to do that we need to make sure that they will have positive interactions with the devs (particularly any whose position is explicitly to provide professional and effective communication). If we as a community let this slide, we are saying it is okay for screeps employees to treat people that way, and hurt the whole community by costing us players, which in turn costs us unique interactions, fresh viewpoints, and potential enjoyment of the game.
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RE: Game.cpu.generatePixel change
@artch The longer you take to apologize to the customers you are supposed to be helping, not abusing, the more replies I will have to post. It'll all be over as soon as you take your job seriously.
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RE: Game.cpu.generatePixel change
@artch said in Game.cpu.generatePixel change:
Since emotions are settled down finally, I'm opening the thread again, and moving some relevant posts here to keep it in one place. Please remember to be respectful and stick to the constructive discussion without getting personal, offending and accusations.
Glad to hear it. Since you've had time to cool off and compose yourself, are you ready to apologize to @Rhef @cribbit and @CrAzYDubC now?
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RE: Game.cpu.generatePixel change
@rhef It's not a discussion of peers or anything, it's a discussion between a person whose job title is "communicating effectively and professionally with customers" and said customers. I also feel like if it was a discussion between adults, an apology wouldn't be so hard to coax out of @artch
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RE: Game.cpu.generatePixel change
@crazydubc I'd love to, but @artch still hasn't apologized and has to be taken to task. Soon enough I'll never have to bring it up again. Sorry to have dragged you into this.
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RE: Game.cpu.generatePixel change
@cribbit the second biggest "fuck you" @artch gave was to you personally:
@artch said in Game.cpu.generatePixel change:
@cribbit Please let's don't play words and spam pointless discussions here. It's obvious enough what was meant.
You raised a valid point, and in response @artch raised a middle finger.
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RE: Game.cpu.generatePixel change
@artch said in Game.cpu.generatePixel change:
Since emotions are settled down finally, I'm opening the thread again, and moving some relevant posts here to keep it in one place. Please remember to be respectful and stick to the constructive discussion without getting personal, offending and accusations.
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RE: Is Screeps ever receiving a Discord?
@tigga nice! Gotta love that convienince. Evidently there's an arena too if I scroll down lol.
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RE: Is Screeps ever receiving a Discord?
@shibdib I feel like a lot of people have trouble even knowing about the forum's existence and even fewer know about the slack. I'm surprised there's no link to it in-game.
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RE: Requesting Update on New Power Creep Roles?
@geir1983 just looking for @artch to apologize to you guys for attacking Screeps customers and abusing power to try to prevent people from having discourse about it. Did you see the post where he/she threw the community under the bus for the miscommunication regarding the change to generatePixel()?
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RE: A release procedure for changes
@rhef <- this guy gets it! That would be so helpful! (also evidently that one guy didn't see what you did in that other thread before you undid it, so you're in the clear lol)