Shhh... the adults are having a conversation.

@rhef Ya at this point after searching the forums and seeing that so many people have complained about @artch already, I'm just going to leave this here for the next person who tries to take @artch to task for abusive behavior. It seems like plenty of people complain about it already, so it's not like the community doesn't know about the problem. @artch already said it best in that other thread I linked and hopefully, someday this game will get a level-headed moderator.

I am confused why if screeps has a community manager and @artch isn't that person why @artch hasn't been dealt with by the community manager yet. At this point, this thread has evolved into just a discussion about what can be done to improve the player experience in screeps by taking advantage of the dedicated community it has built.

@zortea Fun fact, @artch is a moderator over there too, and community moderated is not the same as unmoderated. The screeps subreddit is where I was first introduced to the screeps community (outside of in-game messages with neighbors). The subreddit may have spoiled me since everyone over there is so nice all the time and I guess @artch is less active (until he reads this lol) with only about one post a month.

It's hard to feel grateful for interaction from the devs when all we seem to get is abusive language and churlishness. If we want the community to grow, we need the forums here to feel more like the subreddit: a place where people are welcome to talk without being abused just because the devs are overworked. Community moderation I think would be a good thing, and what we have now I feel like is worse than nothing.

@zortea I would wager there are plenty of members of the community who would be willing to moderate the forums for free. That could help if the problem is devs just being spread too thin, plus many members of the community seem like really nice people and would likely handle problems with a level head.

@artch Thanks, sorry again to hear about your loss.
Just take a look at all the abuse you give players, the toxicity is astounding. How can anyone expect to play this game when someone who is supposed to act professional treats customers this way? Why isn't the community manager stepping in and putting a stop to the abuse? I'm sure there are cooler heads among the community who would moderate the forums without attacking people personally.

https://screeps.com/forum/topic/1925/future-of-screeps-what-do-the-devs-envision/
https://screeps.com/forum/topic/3099/game-cpu-generatepixel-change/

Even a quick search of the forums reveals literal hundreds of results of @artch getting heated at customers, usually explicitly ego related:

"So now you're comparing competency of project developers who worked on it for 5 years, and a person who started playing it a month ago."
"Really, did I say that somewhere?"
"Oh come on, you can't be serious."
"I didn't want to start this argument here, but you're so wrong."

And here's a little nugget of advice past you has left for present day you @artch
"You might probably have noticed already that 95% of fights and friction on this forum have happened with your participation. Don't you think it may indicate that something is wrong with your way of expressing your ideas rather than our way of listening to them? ... And if someone disagrees with you, he is simply mistaken and incompetent?"

@gadjung I'm not asking for @artch to apologize to me, I'm asking him to apologize to the customers he insulted in this thread. Since I'm sinking to the same level as @artch I definitely wouldn't expect an apology now even if I had before. It's important to the health of the game that we continue to be able to bring in new players as old players leave, and to do that we need to make sure that they will have positive interactions with the devs (particularly any whose position is explicitly to provide professional and effective communication). If we as a community let this slide, we are saying it is okay for screeps employees to treat people that way, and hurt the whole community by costing us players, which in turn costs us unique interactions, fresh viewpoints, and potential enjoyment of the game.

Some emoji reactions that the devs have put on the site are not considered acceptable for users to use by the devs. I'm making this thread to help people keep track of what emoji people might consider offensive. React to this post with any emoji you might find offensive so that people won't find themselves in a situation where they are caught unaware.

@artch The longer you take to apologize to the customers you are supposed to be helping, not abusing, the more replies I will have to post. It'll all be over as soon as you take your job seriously.

@rhef I'm glad to hear it, but it seems like it's still not getting through to @artch

@artch said in Game.cpu.generatePixel change:

Since emotions are settled down finally, I'm opening the thread again, and moving some relevant posts here to keep it in one place. Please remember to be respectful and stick to the constructive discussion without getting personal, offending and accusations.

Glad to hear it. Since you've had time to cool off and compose yourself, are you ready to apologize to @Rhef @cribbit and @CrAzYDubC now?